Posts by Ray Frankz

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Commentary on the Letter of James

by lepermessiah in

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zoiks inspired this thread when he mentioned this book elsewhere.. i have read other threads on this forum about it, but i always enjoy the fresh insight on here.. commentary on the letter of james was always my favorite book from wtbs, partly because i love the book of james, but also because it was one of the books that dealt with more practical christian living than constant wt doctrine.. i mentioned to a number of people that i loved that book, and got a few comments of "well, you know that book was written by an apostate.".

it didnt take me long to do a little math - that book came out i believe in 1979/1980, right around the time of the great purge.

how could someone write such an excellent book and then be branded an apostate just a few months later???.

Ray Frankz

I was surprised some time time ago to discover that Raymond Franz wrote the old Family Life book. Is that true? Considering it has some of the more infamous statements on sexuality and gender relations.

I'd not be that shocked. Ray Franz was an excellent human being but WAS a christian, JW, conservative about sexual morals and he never denied it in any of his books. What makes him special is that he advocates that the one's opinion (his, for example) isn't the rule for anyone else but the oneself. But he's never been anything that resembles what a secular humanist is nowadays.

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How far will they go?

by Gorbatchov in

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imagine: you have inside information that could destroy the watchtower corporations.. how far would they go to protect the assets?.

would they kill?

no strange question in blackwater etc days.. g..

Ray Frankz

Hi guys, the "pedophile in the GB" you are mentioning is the Leo Greenlees case?

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Borg nearly apologies child abuse victims in Finland

by Festus in

the attached picture is historical.

the man on left is ari hakkarainen, representative of jw in finland.

the woman in middle is reporter susanna päivärinta and the lady at right is josefina pakomaa who was abused by family friend - a jw - when she was 11. a vicious apostate today.

Ray Frankz

I don't know what to think about this

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Do you want to play with bears? You are now qualified for baptism!

by neat blue dog in

at today's wt study about child baptism, someone commented and she pointed to the picture of the little girl playing with her teddy bear.

she said, 'she may be looking at her bear and thinking about getting to play with bears in the new system.

her parents notice this, and they decide since it's real to her she may be ready for baptism.

Ray Frankz

If a teenager JW wants to date a girl, even a JW girl, all the congregation, the elders, the watchtower, the GB will say that dating is the way to marriage and it's a such an important decision that must not be taken without thinking twice.

If a KID wants to be baptized (subjecting themselves to disfellowshiping in the future) they say it's totally normal and they should go on.

This cult can't get more shameful.

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New brochure about donations.

by Ray Frankz in

in this midweek meeting the local needs was a booooring speech about the new brochure on donations.

the wt must think the jws are dying to know how to give their money.. well, it's not new this is disgusting but this time, after i ve been slightly hinting people here and there for a year about the 'abnormal request of money' and remind them that 'the faithful slave wasn't like that until some time ago', this time i saw their faces.

they did get bothered with that talk.

Ray Frankz

Lost in the fog

Yes, they did! and that what's more depressing. Knowing that EVERYBODY read this quote (it was in the purple kingdom book) and EVERYBODY is listening to their begging and EVERYBODY continues following all their rules.

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Do JWs Say They Are Fulfilling Prophetic Bible Prophecies Any Longer?

by minimus in

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every bible book pretty much was applied to the “anointed remnant “.

if a prophet blew his nose it was a fulfillment of a future deed done by the “anointed”.. have they stopped this nonsense?

?.

Ray Frankz

They said it indeed. But right after it they also said that the way Jesus shared the multiplied bread (handing to the disciples and then, the disciples handing to the people) was foreseeing the way He would feed people spiritually today (The GB bulshit).

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New brochure about donations.

by Ray Frankz in

in this midweek meeting the local needs was a booooring speech about the new brochure on donations.

the wt must think the jws are dying to know how to give their money.. well, it's not new this is disgusting but this time, after i ve been slightly hinting people here and there for a year about the 'abnormal request of money' and remind them that 'the faithful slave wasn't like that until some time ago', this time i saw their faces.

they did get bothered with that talk.

Ray Frankz

Stephane, it's so shameful that the GB does whatever it takes to supress the love the JW may show. Venezuela is falling apart, a lot of immigrants (JW included of course) are seeking refuge in Brazil, and it's clearly a great oportunity for showing christian love towards these people, so what the GB says?

"Brothers, do NOT send money or food or clothes for anybody in the borders or any immigrant. If you want to help them, send your money to the Worldwide Work and we will direct it to our brothers in need."

It's shameful!

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New brochure about donations.

by Ray Frankz in

in this midweek meeting the local needs was a booooring speech about the new brochure on donations.

the wt must think the jws are dying to know how to give their money.. well, it's not new this is disgusting but this time, after i ve been slightly hinting people here and there for a year about the 'abnormal request of money' and remind them that 'the faithful slave wasn't like that until some time ago', this time i saw their faces.

they did get bothered with that talk.

Ray Frankz

Who wants to place bets on when they'll introduce tithing?

With all the letters? I think never. But it's clearly that there was change in the policy of requesting money since three years ago, and it's increasing how often they do it. I think that's what's gonna happen, begging more and more AND still boasting that they are different from the other religions that (at least not hiding) do tithing.

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New brochure about donations.

by Ray Frankz in

in this midweek meeting the local needs was a booooring speech about the new brochure on donations.

the wt must think the jws are dying to know how to give their money.. well, it's not new this is disgusting but this time, after i ve been slightly hinting people here and there for a year about the 'abnormal request of money' and remind them that 'the faithful slave wasn't like that until some time ago', this time i saw their faces.

they did get bothered with that talk.

Ray Frankz

In this midweek meeting the Local Needs was a booooring speech about the new brochure on donations. The WT must think the JWs are dying to know how to give their money.

Well, it's not new this is disgusting but THIS time, after I ve been slightly hinting people here and there for a year about the 'abnormal request of money' and remind them that 'the Faithful Slave wasn't like that until some time ago', this time I saw their faces. They did get bothered with that talk. My mother who knows all my concerns told me that in the field service next day everyone were talking about the brochure and how they think it is unnecessary.

Who needs apostates when you have a GB like this?

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Heb. 1:2-3 Proof we should worship Jesus?

by NikL in

jw.org believes that jesus is not god but a separate entity.

let's go with that for the time being.

in the referenced scriptures the writer of hebrews says that jesus "sustains all things by the word of his power" and has been "appointed heir of all things".

Ray Frankz

The problem with the Trinity concept is that is just like any other WT madeup belief( like earth paradise, or 144.000)

Is there scriptures that indicates this? Yes.

Does the general context indicate this? No.

Would it be nice if it did? Yes.